Monday, 30 April 2012
Sunday, 29 April 2012
Mattogno's obsession with "the 'converging' testimonial evidence for the Auschwitz 4 million victim figure" ignores the fact that Höss gave lower figures. 44 Höss affidavit, 20.5.46, NI-034. (p.519)
Hoess did indeed give lower figures, but not in the Nuremberg document HC have incorrectly cited. In Nuremberg documents NO-1210, 3868-PS and NI-034, Hoess gave exactly the same figures i.e. 2,500,000 gassed and 500,000 killed by starvation and disease, just during his tenure as Auschwitz commandant. Hoess' lower figures were given at his trial, in his memoirs, and posthumously credited to him at the 1961 Eichmann trial by US Army psychologist Gustav Gilbert. Gilbert hadn't bothered mentioning them in his 1947 book Nuremberg Diaries, instead he claimed Hoess had confessed to him personally, in his prison cell, that he had exterminated 2,500,000 Jews. Gilbert was "economical with the actualité", but that's a different story.
"... opponents such as ourselves who deal with the evidence in good faith?" (p.520)
See Nick Terry's handling of Nuremberg document NO-482 on p.232, or my comments here, to see HC's idea of "good faith."
"The attempt to poison the well by blaming the Soviet investigators for effectively hoaxing mass graves ignores the fact that western journalists were shown human remains at Babi Yar, Klooga and near Majdanek, and a huge store of plundered property in Lublin." (p.520)
It wasn't just journalists given the official tour around "Majdanek museum." Paddy Costello, the New Zealand diplomat, suspected communist spy, father of halachically Jewish children, the man who ensured Raul Hilberg's often cited Auschwitzer Oleg Lengyel made it to Paris (via Lublin and Odessa), he too went on the guided tour of Majdanek. He accepted a "2,000,000" death toll given by the Majdanek museum's director for just that one camp, the figure which appears in his March 26, 1945 report, alongside a 6,000,000 figure for Auschwitz, and the tale of the new-born babies being thrown into boxes to die, then cremated en masse when the boxes were full.- McNeish, James. The Sixth Man: The Extraordinary Life of Paddy Costello. London: Quartet Books. 2008. p.313-318 & 166
It has been indisputably proven that the Soviets committed acts of genocide, then blamed it on the Germans (USSR-54), and the Bolshevik's murderous behaviour in Europe was predicted by the British government in February 1944. Soviet propagandists showing journalists corpses, in territory where the Soviets had been slaughtering civilians and raping children for several months, could not be accepted at face-value by any conscientious historian.
"Sobibor also has unsourced speculation by Graf that Zionists were "unhesitatingly prepared to sacrifice hundreds of thousands of their own brethren." The same page then blames Zionists for "firing up" German anti-Jewish feeling in 1933." (p.522)
"If I knew that it would be possible to save all the children in Germany by bringing them over to England and only half of them by transporting them to Eretz Israel, then I opt for the second alternative."- David Ben Gurion, addressing a conference of Labour Zionists in the UK, 1938
No lesser figures than Samuel Untermyer on August 6th, 1933, Rabbi Edward L. Israel on November 20, 1938, and Heinrich Brüning in 1948, all claimed that Hitler (a "Messenger of God" to some Zionists) had been, or was being financed by Jews. A charge Hitler successively refuted in court during 1923, winning himself, ironically, 6,000,000 marks in the process! If financing an anti-Semitic political party wasn't "firing up" German anti-Jewish feeling, then what was? The Nazis and Zionists shared a common goal:
"The political Zionists ... they call upon Jews to leave Europe and to found a state of their own; preferably in Palestine,"- Public Opinion, 1897
"Zionist groups themselves estimated their own strength at only 1 or 2 percent of the country's Jews. The Zionist concept was anathema to the overwhelming majority ... In 1933, then, Zionism in Germany was a mere fringe movement."- Edwin Black, 1984
"It would be an excellent idea to call in respectable, accredited anti-Semities as liquidators of property. ... The anti-Semities will become our most dependable friends, the anti-Semitic countries our allies."- Theodor Herlz's diary, June 12, 1895
" ... accusing Jews of using Christian blood in their rituals." (p.522)
No-one can seriously claim to prove or disprove what every Jew over the last 1000 years, has or hasn't done. But the consumption by Jews, of circumcision blood (the "Water of Elijah" ritual) and swallowing freshly severed babies' prepuces (sometimes with honey) has been documented by numerous Jewish scholars, including Rabbi Jacob Moses Toledano, a minister in Ben Gurion's government, up-until very recent times.
"Mattogno is much more guarded in his statements but, in 2010, wrote an article on the Protocols of the Elders of Zion which stated that the "aspiration to world domination by the Jews... is already expressed explicitly" in rabbinical texts and constitutes "the very essence of Jewish messianism." (p.523)
Are HC contesting this claim, or accepting it's true? I found the prefect description of the above sentence, and I actually found it in HC's book."In fact, it would appear that he doesn't have an argument here, and is advancing what might be called the non-argument argument, whereby the mere act of quoting something is supposedly sufficient to prove a point that is not even outlined, much less explained." (p.59)Voltaire would have agreed 100% with Mattogno's assertion, even as ellipsised and clipped by HC in their "non-argument argument.""The Jews are distinguished among the nations by this—that their oracles are the only true ones, of which we are not permitted to doubt. These oracles, which they understand only in the literal sense, have a hundred times foretold to them that they should be masters of the world; yet they have never possessed anything more than a small corner of land, and that only for a small number of years, and they have not now so much as a village of their own. They must, then, believe, and they do believe, that their predictions will one day be fulfilled, and that they shall have the empire of the earth."Is it now antisemitic to simply quote the Tanakh? (aka the 'Jewish Bible' & the 'Old Testament'):
- Jews. - The Works of Voltaire, Vol. V (Philosophical Dictionary Part 3) 
"Request of Me, and I will make nations your inheritance, and the ends of the earth your possession."
- Psalms 2:8
"the God of heaven will set up a kingdom that will never be destroyed, nor will it be left to another people. It will crush all those kingdoms and bring them to an end, but it will itself endure forever."
- Daniel 2:44 (many, many more explicit examples can easily be shown)
Then of course there's the Midrashic texts:
"I am the Lord who created heaven and earth. I will increase your numbers and multiply you very much. Kings will come from you, and they will rule wherever mankind has set foot. I will give your descendants all of the land that is beneath the sky. They will rule over all nations just as they wish. Afterwards, they will gain the entire earth, and they will possess it forever."
- Book of Jubilees 32:18-19
And the Gemara, as interpreted by the American Jewish Congress, not noted as typical antisemities:
"Still, the Talmud retains three dimensions of the messianic ideal—Israel will be triumphant, all-conquering: "when the Messiah comes, all will be slaves to Israel" (Eruvin 43b)."
- Judaism Vol. 32, (1983)
"Thus Israel should hope for the redemption, because it will be a day of light to them: but why should the Gentiles, seeing that for them it will be a day of darkness"
- Sanhedrin 98b
"... as it is written (Haggai 2:8), The Silver is mine, and the gold is mine, saith the Lord of Hosts. He has long since given them to us,"
- Sanhedrin 103b
"[The Rabbis] wished to store away all the silver and gold in the world on account of the silver and gold [plundered from the Sanctuary] of Jerusalem!"
- Avodah Zarah 52b
And of course, there's the small fact that prominent Jews keep claiming they will conquer, control, and rule the world. 1 2 3
"The idea that conspiracy theorists "live in their own world" thus is not simply criticism of their mental capacity, but also a statement sufficiently describing reality and historical events as they are typically understood by conspiracy theorists." (p.524)
Jonathan Harrison, the author of this chapter (I believe*) and seemingly the nightwatchman of the HC team, doesn't share the parametres of who exactly qualifies a "conspiracy theorist" in his theorising. He does of course include "Holocaust deniers" ("Jewish newspeak"), but presumably he would also include:
Benjamin Disraeli (secret societies plot to destroy constitutional governments and Christianity)
Woodrow Wilson (US government is dominated by a small group of powerful men)
Winston Churchill (Jewish Bolshevism and Jewish plot for word domination)
Franklin D. Roosevelt (financial institution have owned US government see mid-19th century)
Bertrand Russell (Jewish Bolshevism and JFK assassination)
Richard Nixon (Jews control main stream media)
Spiro Agnew (Jews control main stream media)
Legislatures of Michigan and Delaware (world government threat)
Michael Meacher (Bush administration had foreknowledge of 9/11 attack)
Robin Cook (Al-Qaeda originated as the name of a CIA database)
I'm clearly not making the case for any of these positions, therefore the predictable response of argumentum ad verecundiam would be misplaced. I'm merely pointing out who HC's Jonathan Harrison would consider to be a "conspiracy theorist" and possess(ed) a "mental capacity" inferior to his own. We can surely expected great things from Mr Harrison seeing that he has such a fine mind (knowledge of basic Nuremberg documents, the obvious exception, see top of page). As Chancellor Palpatine said to a young Darth Vader, "we will watch your career with great interest."
* When I noted HC BST error of the contents of NI-034 (see top of page) on rodoh, it was Harrison who responded aggressively by ignoring the error and insisting there's no connection between the numerous testimonies which supported the original official Auschwitz 4 million death toll.
"The late Raul Hilberg once said, deniers "are like children who say: prove it! And so we must, prove it!" Hilberg could have added that deniers are asking historians to reinvent the wheel, because the Holocaust was already proven in the 1940s." (p.527)
Unfortunately for HC it's very unlikely Raul Hilberg would have said such a thing, seeing as he did say shortly before he died: "... yes, there was a Holocaust, which is, by the way, more easily said than demonstrated."
Posted by The Black Rabbit of Inlé at 12:53
Saturday, 28 April 2012
I've found yet another mention of six million Jews from the nauseating Jewish supremacist, communist
promoter, and gruelpropagandist Rabbi Stephen S. Wise. But first a recap of his others that I know of:
promoter, and gruelpropagandist Rabbi Stephen S. Wise. But first a recap of his others that I know of:
"There are 6,000,000 living, bleeding, suffering arguments in favour of Zionism."- Speech before the Federation of American Zionists, Cooper Union, NY, June 10, 1900
"Today one-third of the Jews are on the march. Six million Jews are homeless."- Speech before the Beth-El Congregation, Bulkeley School, Connecticut, CT, Dec 16, 1937
Wise was unsurprisingly one of the Zionists throwing about the
6,000,000 figure of Ho£ocausted Jews far too early after WW2:
6,000,000 figure of Ho£ocausted Jews far too early after WW2:
"The Christian world, and I include England, of course, in the Christian world, suffered six million of the people of Jesus of Nazareth to die in a most horrible manner. The Christian world owes the Jews some reparation."- Speech in San Francisco, May 1945
"Two-fifths of all Jewry—nearly 6,000,000 men, women, and children—were butchered,"- Comment made in London, August 1945
"It was our very unhappy conviction all along that the responsibility for the extinction of six million Jews in Europe was not Hitler's alone. The Entire Christian world shares that responsibility."
- An Open Letter To Prime Minister Attle. Signed by Abba Hiliel Silver, Stephen S. Wise—Joint Chairmen, American Zionist Emergency Council. Sept 1945
And my recent find, one made when Hitler was only 23 years old:
"Russia is now asphyxiating the Jews. It does not dare to offend the nations by blood spilling, so it is slowly, but surely grinding out the lives of 6,000,000 Jews."- Speech at Carnegie Hall, NY, Sept 11, 1912
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Posted by The Black Rabbit of Inlé at 09:49
This guy's made a good video on how the Jewish owned New York Times, and not just their
journalist Walter Duranty outright denied the Ukrainian famine, now known as the Holodomor.
He does go on to claim they under-reported the Ho£ocaust. But let's
be honest, they've certainly more than made up for it since.
Another short video, this time purely on Żydokomuna apologist Walter Duranty
The Brooklyn Daily Eagle quite clearly wasn't a Jewish-owned paper,
not when it employed editors who wrote things like this:
Posted by The Black Rabbit of Inlé at 08:10
In answer to their rhetorical question, the going rate for a child depended very much on where you brought
them, 500 - 2,000 rubles in Russia, 1,500 marks in Germany, and 3,000 - 6,000 francs in Argentina.
In 1913, according to Jewish sources, 38 of the 39 child slave traders in Galicia were Jewish.
Posted by The Black Rabbit of Inlé at 04:03
Friday, 27 April 2012
Nice early appearance of the kabbalistically significant six million figure. Rabbi Fischoff warns an historic meeting of Canadian and American B'nai B'rith members at Hotel Niagara in New York State, that 6,000,000 Jews are in imminent danger.
enlarged version here
The Niagara Falls Gazette, Monday, May 1, 1939, p.15
photo of Rabbi Fischoff found here
Posted by The Black Rabbit of Inlé at 22:27
Zionists Abba Hiliel Silver, Stephen Samuel Wise and a friend
Months before the world found out 6,000,000 Jews had been holocausted, American
Zionists were blaming the British for the holocausting of the 6,000,000 Jews.
Posted by The Black Rabbit of Inlé at 21:36
"AREN'T 6,000,000 JEWISH DEAD ENOUGH ?"
Reads the banner at this Sunday, September 30th, 1945 Zionist rally at Madison Square Gardens, New York City.
Photo appears in the Encyclopaedia Judaica (1971), I've taken it from here
The funny thing is, the Nazi who is always credited as the source that 6,000,000 Jews were killed, didn't sign his confession
until November 26th, 1945, and it was not even mentioned at the main Nuremberg trial until December 14th, 1945.
Story in the New York Post about this rally:
enlarge version here
New York Post, Monday October 1, 1945, p.15
Posted by The Black Rabbit of Inlé at 20:50
Jews have always fought for freedom
Author: Szyk, Arthur, 1894-1951 ( cover illustrator ) Brainin, Joseph ( editor ) Porter, Cyrus.
Publisher: National Reception Committee to the Delegation from the U.S.S.R.
Subject: Jews -- Soviet Union Jews -- United States Propaganda, American -- Soviet Union Jews as soldiers Jews in Russia
Institution: The Wolfsonian-Florida International University
Posted by The Black Rabbit of Inlé at 19:10
Thursday, 26 April 2012
"Eyewitness descriptions of the burning procedure suggest that corpses considered to burn better than others were placed at the bottom of the pile of bodies so that they would help combustion of the corpses above them." (P.449)
It was put more succinctly than that.
"Men won't burn without women." - Treblinka sonderkommando, quoted by Rachel Auerbach in 1945
"corpses of women were used for kindling the fires." - Jankiel Wiernik, 1945
“In Treblinka we learned that little children burn better than grown men. All it takes is a match to light them. That’s why the Germans, damn them, ordered us to put the children in the pit first.” - Eliahu Rosenberg, trial of John Demjanjuk, Jerusalem
"The SS "expert" on body burning ordered us to put women, particularly fat women, on the first layer of the grill, face down." (p.448)
There must have been plenty of "fat women" gassed at Treblinka, according to someone involved in the cremation process. Which is strange, as HC BST repeatedly imply—when insisting 16+ were crammed into each square metre of a Reinhard gas chambers (p.291) and 20 were buried in a single cubic metre (p.418)—that the majority of Treblinka victims were musselmen:
"starvation conditions of the ghetto" (p.330)
"deportees upon arrival, weighing 34 kg on average due to malnutrition" (p.475)
"considering that the deportees to Treblinka were largely if not predominantly women and children and mostly came from Polish ghettos where they had been subject to prolonged malnutrition" (p.491)
"What Arad calls "round wooden sticks" are likely to have been not sticks but wooden logs similar to those portrayed in this drawing from Auschwitz-Birkenau by David Olere:" (p.448/9)
"Evidence" from former Birkenau Sonderkommando Hermann Gruenwald, contradicts David "kremawurst" Olere's method of bone crushing:"We used something like an electric meat grinder. Standing on a chair, I forced the bones down in the grinder with my hands and pushed a button."
"This shows that the results of the exhumation, burning and crushing procedure were not nearly as complete as certain descriptions suggest." (p.449)
HC deliberately omitted the following, although they quote this eyewitness and from the cited book many times in their book:
"Abraham Goldfarb relates:... we secretly placed in the walls of the graves whole skeletons and we wrote on scraps of paper what the Germans were doing at Treblinka. We put the scraps of paper into bottles which we placed next to the skeletons. Our intention was that if one day someone looked for traces of the Nazis' crimes, they could indeed be found. ..."What a pity, that no one's ever bothered to look for this evidence.
"After the end of transports from the Lodz Ghetto, which in August 1944 went no longer to Chelmno but to Auschwitz-Birkenau, the remaining Jewish slave laborers had to work in removing all remaining traces of the extermination activity, including further burning of corpses in the forest camp." (p.451/2)
But in their free time they played in a band. Apparently they really cooked.
"... the author is aware of, like the bungled last-minute cremation attempt at Ohrdruf concentration camp shortly before US troops reached the area." (p.515)
It's known that it was the Americans and not the Germans who made the iconic "cordwood" piles of bodies at Buchenwald, so it's a fair assumption that the Americans also made the cordwood piles of bodies at Dachau, Mauthausen and Ohrdruf. This attempt a cremating perhaps two dozen corpses at Ohrdruf, bears no reassemble to the über-efficient methods attested to in the preceding pages of HC BST.
"... the camp Klooga in Estonia (where a similar bungled attempt to cremate the bodies of about 2,500 inmates massacred in September 1944 took place as the Red Army was approaching.)" (p.515)
Documented by the same people who brought us USSR-54:The mass shooting of the Polish prisoners of war in the Katyn forest was carried out by the German armed forces under the cover name 'Staff 537 of the Construction Battalion,' led by Lt. Col. Arnes and his associates Lt. Reckst and Lt. Hott.As we can see, the Communists made a propagandistic fanfare of Klooga. Which means all facts were accurately propagated. Just like with Katyn.
Posted by The Black Rabbit of Inlé at 19:53
"it's a one-man gas chamber, disguised as a telephone box"
David Irving said this at meeting in Moers, Germany, March 5, 1990
'....there is one statement, one protocol about a man who maintained that there was a one-man gas chamber. Incidentally, she sees that, this man was, he had a very good imagination, he said, there is a one-man gas chamber. So that is, just big enough to gas one single victim. And it was transported around the countryside by two peasants, like a sedan chair. And of course, there are problems with it: how, if you please, do you get the victim to go into this one-man gas chamber? Quite clearly: if I'm a victim wandering, around the Polish countryside, and then suddenly I turn around and there's a one- man gas chamber behind me, I'm going to get suspicious. Well, it was disguised as a telephone box. That's what it says, in the witness statement. So it's a one-man gas chamber, disguised as a telephone box - well, I'm still suspicious. Here I am, I turn around, and suddenly there's a telephone box where there wasn't one before. How are you going to get me to climb into it? There is probably a telephone in it, which rings, and the man [incomprehensible] waves and says "It's for you". It's laughable, isn't it? It's well, you could describe it as a "free trip to the other side". But it's in the archives. We can all laugh about it, in this little intimate circle, but the other witness statements are equally ridiculous. So, the witness statements are a case for the psychiatrists'
Quoted in Justice Gray's Judgment (8.17 vi) of the 2000 Irving vs. Lipstadt & Penguin trial
This story was discussed at the trial on March 2, 2000
Posted by The Black Rabbit of Inlé at 07:51
Wednesday, 25 April 2012
"... the known fact that humanity has grown taller over time." (p.417)
To borrow a expletive from HC BST: "Bullshit"
"If you were to meet an Englishman in the year 1000, the first thing that would strike you would be how tall he was very much the size of anyone alive today.3 It is generally believed that we are taller than our ancestors, and that is certainly true when we compare our stature to the size of more recent generations. Malnourished and overcrowded, the inhabitants of Georgian or Victorian England could not match our health or physique at the end of the twentieth century.
But the bones that have been excavated from the graves of people buried in England in the years around 1000 tell a tale of strong and healthy folk — the Anglo-Saxons who had occupied the greater part of the British Isles since the departure of the Romans.
(footnote) 3. See Werner (Alex, ed. London Bodies: The Changing Shape of Londoners from Prehistoric Times to the Present Day. London: Museum of London, 1998), p. 108, for a table of London body heights over the centuries, based on excavations going back to prehistoric times. This shows, for example, that the average Saxon male body height was 5'8", as compared to the modern average of 5'9" (and a Victorian male average of 5'5". The table also shows that, at 5'4¼", the average Saxon female was actually taller than the modern female Londoner, whose average height is 5'3¾". The equivalent height for the female Victorian was 5'1¼".- Lacey, Robert. Danziger, Danny. The Year 1000: What Life Was Like at the Turn of the First Millennium. London: Abacus. 2000. p.9 & 215. And here
"With the more realistic weights for malnourished Polish ghetto Jews that the author established above, the average would be 663.4 + 34 = 19.51 (20) corpses per cubic meter." (p.418)
Below is a photo of the Germans reportedly burying people in a mass grave at Belzec—whether it is actually Belzec is immaterial, but it does give an example of how the Nazis buried cadavers in mass graves. The corpses are severely emaciated, which the gas chamber victims would not have been, and although these corpses appear to be men only, it still shows that HC claim of 20 corpses per cubic metre is preposterously absurd.
For illustrative purposes
"With 10 daily trips to a nearby storage place, 656 trucks could manage this load in a single day, 66 trucks in 10 days and 7 trucks in 100 days. Even the much higher quantity claimed by Mattogno could have been removed within 100 days, which was much less than the gassing operations at Belzec lasted, with no more than 24 trucks. Not exactly an insurmountable logistical problem." (p.429)
The German shortage of fuel was well known to the Allies, see for example this story in U.S. press in May 1941. "Nazi Gasoline Shortage Best Hope for Success for Allies ... The outcome of the war may hinge on this fact." On at least five occasions, between July and January 1943, the Auschwitz camp had to seek authorisation from Berlin just to send a single truck to Dessau to collect additional supplies of Zyklon B to combat the typhus epidemic (Pressac A:T&O p.188). But HC maintain that at Treblinka alone (Belzec & Sobibor combined would have required similar numbers) the Germans could have made 6,560 to 24,000 truck journeys, simply to put mud in their mud "storage place."
"One might think that Mattogno, Graf & Kues would like their readers to believe that the SS made graves big enough for a house to comfortably fit in because they liked to keep their Jewish labor force digging all the time, or because they enjoyed the healthy exercise themselves or were so fond of handling excavators that they made enormous graves just for the fun of it." (p.439)
British businessman Joseph Williamson (1769–1840) who constructed the famous tunnels under Liverpool, paid the unemployed men of the city to perform labourious tasks—just to undo them, simply to give them employment:"Williamson would often have his men perform apparently pointless duties. It is said that he would get a man to move a pile of rocks from one place to another and then get him to move them back again."
Posted by The Black Rabbit of Inlé at 19:24
Alex Jones with his colleague Abraham Foxman
On March 22, 2012, Lyndon LaRouche was the guest on the Alex Jones Show, LaRouche,
who's quite mad, advises that the British royal family will start a nuclear war this year.
At the 17:50 mark on this video Alex Kosher Jones says:
"Liberty is popular. Freedom is popular. Not having wars is popular. Most of the brass, even current, have say 'don't have war.' We saw a big Washington Post paged-sized ad last weekend, and it ran the weekend before that, all these former top generals saying 'do not attack Iran.' You've got most of the Israeli leadership saying 'don't do it.' But then there's this controlled media here in the U.S., acting like you're a traitor to America, or that you hate Israel, if you don't want this attack on Iran."
Below is the cover of a satirical pamphlet from the American Nazi Party, probably written
by George Lincoln Rockwell who had a talent for these, see his Diary of Ann Fink
"So we apologize. We were wrong. Communism is NOT JEWISH!---It is Irish!
Marx was Irish, The Atom spies were Irish, the Hollywood Ten were Irish, the
Canadian spy ring, with O'Rosenberg and O'Cohen as leaders, - was Irish…"
Marx was Irish, The Atom spies were Irish, the Hollywood Ten were Irish, the
Canadian spy ring, with O'Rosenberg and O'Cohen as leaders, - was Irish…"
Posted by The Black Rabbit of Inlé at 06:52
Monday, 23 April 2012
I've previously posted here on how a British economist published a book in 1900 in which he proved beyond a reasonable doubt, that Boer War was fought for Jews, especially Rothschild gold and diamond mining interests.
The articles below were written by a British Christian "of the Jewish race" and a committed Zionist. They appeared in politically left-leaning British magazine The New Age in January 1908. The author makes it clear that Natty Rothschild was the sole author of the Anglo-Egyptian War of 1882.
Posted by The Black Rabbit of Inlé at 03:05
Sunday, 22 April 2012
"Isn't it time trustworthy experts did an extensive scientific study of this place?"
- Richard Rampton, Deborah Lipstadt's barrister, Birkenau, June 12, 1999
This photo is from Lipstadt's book History on Trial: My Day in Court with a Holocaust Denier, she's pictured in the Auschwitz I "gas chamber" with her barrister Richard Rampton, and Auschwitz expert Robert Jan van Pelt. In preparation for the 2000 trial against David Irving, they spent 2 days on a "forensic tour" of Auschwitz and Birkenau, where Lipstadt took offence at something her barrister said:
"We proceeded from the death barracks to the delousing buildings where clothing was disinfected with Zyklon B, the same gas used to kill people. This was the facility where Leuchter had found a concentration of gas residue higher than in the gas chambers. Rampton closely questioned Robert Jan about Leuchter's findings. As Rampton's questions grew more aggressive, I became decidedly uncomfortable. He seemed to be demanding that Robert Jan prove that people were murdered in the gas chambers. Finally, Rampton asked impatiently, "Isn't it time trustworthy experts did an extensive scientific study of this place?" I was stunned by Rampton's apparent conviction that we needed a scientific study to "prove" the gas chambers were killing factories. Unable to contain myself, I burst out, "Why do we need scientific studies? We have the evidence." Rampton glared at me and in, a tone that conveyed his annoyance, said, "Pardon me, but I need to know." I said nothing, but inside I was shaking. Unable to fathom why Rampton was shooting these questions at Robert Jan, I slipped to the back of the group."
Lipstadt, Deborah E. History on Trial: My Day in Court with a Holocaust Denier. New York: Harper Perennial. pp.62-63.
Posted by The Black Rabbit of Inlé at 23:49
How things have changed.
Posted by The Black Rabbit of Inlé at 20:12
"The same holds true for statements regarding the February 13-14, 1945 bombing of Dresden as, in addition to several other areas, many victims reported the occurrence of an Allied strafing attack that never happened, and several witness statements suggested the death toll lay significantly above 100,000 victims, even though the actual death toll has recently been revised to around 25,000." (p.348)slay the inhabitants of a city that has become idolatrous and burn that city. - 613 Mitzvots (Commandments)
Know that this Christian nation, who advocate the messianic claim, in all their various sects, all of them are idolators. - Maimonides, Mishnah Torah, Avodah Zara
I shouldn't have be surprised that prospective Righteous Gentiles HC waded in with some Dresden holocaust denial—athough the use of the word "victims" will not please Deborah Lipstadt.
The canonical Holocaust story claims the Nazis exhumed and cremated upto 200,000 corpses in just six weeks at Babi Yar. Yet 11 months after the attack on Dresden, it was estimated by Soviet military govenor Major General Dimitry Duorovski, that tens of thousands of corpses still remained buried in the ruins of the city.
HC are surely aware of David Irving's April 24, 2009 discovery in the Public Record Office, of the British intercept of the 5:55pm, March 24th, 1945 (ie over five weeks after the attack) encoded transmission from the Dresden police chief to SS Oberfuehrer Dietrichs. The message stated that 80,000 to 100,000 people are estimated to have been reported missing, of which, 9,720 had been confirmed as fatalities. Of course many victims of the Dresden holocaust would have had no-one left alive to have reported them missing, therefore the true number of missing persons/victims would have been substantially higher.
HC cite a March 2010 BBC News article ("hardly anything but a tertiary source") on the The Dresden Historians' Commission report, which was actually published in October 2008, and therefore the commission was unaware of this intercepted message. But, as we all know, it wouldn't have made the blindest bit of difference to their preplanned Dresden holocaust minimizing even if they had been.
|"Treblinka, Poland, Smoke raises from the burning of corpses in the camp, 02/08/1943."|
"The photograph was presented in the Treblinka trials in Duesseldorf in 1964."
"Another Desbois interviewee, a peasant, explained that the commander of Belzec camp requisitioned his wheat and barley sorting machine. When he went back to collect his machine, after the deportations had finished, he found that ten such machines were being used to sift Jews' ashes." (p.358-9)
HC know full well there are two totally separate wheat and barley sorting machine tales in Father "SS weather/gassings reports" Desbois' book, but HC decided to only mention the one.
Not mentioned by HC is the one on pages 23/4, when the son of a farmer told Desbois a story of the Nazis requisitioning his father's horse, his father later going up to Belzec death camp to get his horse back, (and presumably being let in to the inner part of the camp) where he witnesses wheat and barley sorting machines being used to "ventilate the ashes" of cremated Jews "to find dental gold."
The story HC do mention is on page 154. Father Desbois describes meeting a peasant who was chopping wood when the camp commander requisitioned his wheat and barley sorting machine. He too later went up "to the camp door" of Belzec factory of death to get his machine back:
"The Germans opened the door and I went into the front room where 10 wheat sorters had been placed. Poor Jews had had to turn the handles of the machines. Instead of wheat, they were ventilating Jews' ashes."
Father Desbois (p.155) says: "That day, I decided to take back, in a van, three wheat sorters". I'm guessing that he didn't have to requisition them, I'd wager Father Desbois left Belzec with only three of the ten wheat sorters/ash ventilators he was offered by entrepreneurial residents of Belzec.
"At least three Polish villagers testified to the investigators of Belzec in 1945 that they heard about the test gassing at Belzec from the Trawnikis." (p.359)
Seeing that the BBC had been broadcasting news of Nazis gassing Jews to Europe since at least January 1942, tens of millions undoubtedly heard about it.
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Saturday, 21 April 2012
"The use of engine exhaust for mass murder had also been exemplified since 8 December 1941 in Chelmno, where Warthegau officials stationed several gas vans employing such means to gas thousands of Jews. ... Of course, there were other gaseous methods accessible to Nazi officials to use in order to poison unwanted persons. For the Auschwitz camp staff, the newly available cyanide-based pesticide Zyklon-B presented itself as a suitable method to dispose of the increasing number of Soviet prisoners of war, sick prisoners, and Jewish laborers who were “unfit for work.”" (p.283)
No explanation of how the Zyklon B gas vans evolved then?
"A transport van for prisoners was fitted up in such a way that "Cyklon B" could be introduced at the same time. This van picked up prisoners at Mauthausen concentration camp. gassed them on the way unloaded them at the crematorium at Gusen, and, on the return journey, picked up prisoners at Gusen, again gassed them on the journey and took them to the crematorium at Mauthausen."- PS-499 and Green Series Vol.5. p.1137/8.And considering it was Mauthausen, the Cyklon B would have had to have been on a "hot brick" when it was placed in the van, as was the gassing procedure there.http://winstonsmithministryoftruth.blogspot.co.uk/2011/07/zyklon-b-hot-brick-shovel-jews-nonsense.html
"While this testimony was provided nearly three decades after the event (with the profound impact such a time can have on one’s memory)," (p.288)
Well, isn't that odd, on page 230, footnote 403, HC rely on testimony provided nearly six decades after the event, without voicing any such qualms.
It is also likely that the old wooden gas chambers had been tarnished by the sweat, blood, urine, and excrement of the many thousands of gas chamber victims.74"74 Schelvis, Sobibor, p.103. (p.292)
The cited source, on page 148, states that the Nazi "experts" in stains, brought in to examine an irremovable stain on the gas chamber floorboards, deduced that it had been caused by the blood of child birth, mixing with poison gas (exhaust fumes from a previously diesel, now petrol engine). Also HC left out, the fragments of ears, cheeks and hands embedded in the floorboards. Strange that HC controversies always seem to purge the more ghoulish/ridiculous parts of the eyewitness evidence.
"Jan Sulkowski ... testified about his experience in constructing the new (Treblinka) gas chambers:SS men said it was to be a bath. Only later on, when the building was almost completed, I realized that it was to be a gas chamber. What was indicative of it was a special door of thick steel, insulated with rubber, twisted with a bolt and placed in an iron frame, ...While the door was more likely to be wooden with steel accessories and components rather steel," (p.296)
He clearly indicates it was the door that made him realise it was a gas chamber! Another Jew who also built the new Treblinka gas chambers, also stated that it was a metal door. But this quote doesn't make it into HC BST even though he is discussed, and his his memoirs are quoted at length in their book:"The chambers were connected with the corridor by a hermetically fitted iron door leading into each of the chambers." - Yankel WiernikWhat motives did HC have in dismissing the testimony of two men who claim the gas chamber doors were metal? If we apply HC's petrol/diesel engine methodology, these two men had better knowledge than any other survivors or Nazis/Trawnikis, as they actually built the new chambers. Amusingly, 10 pages later, HC write:"While Mattogno criticizes Wiernik for failing to provide for an exhaust vent, they quote the relevant testimony from Wiernik in the same book. Such sloppiness is inexcusable." (p.306)It is within that very same paragraph, that Wiernik states the gas chamber door was an iron door. Such sloppiness would be inexcusable, but more likely, it was another deliberate omission.
"Samuel Willenberg recorded that he viewed a pile of clothing some ten meters high in the sorting yard, with thousands of other objects lying all around." (p.300)
They could have gone with Treblinka escapee Samuel Rajzman's believable "... enormous piles, sometimes 9 feet high, of clothing and shoes." But instead went with the ludicrous 10 metre tall pile of his fellow escapee Samuel Willenberg. Perhaps HC feels this excuses them from even mentioning Kurt Gerstein's "veritable mounds of clothing and underwear, 115 to 130 feet high." But they have included the standard Gerstein disclaimer on page 331 "... exaggeration, something Gerstein was prone to in his accounts."
"166 Pohl to Himmler, 6.2.1943, NO-1257: “women's hair 1 car 3,000 kg” " (p.314)MAXWELL-FYFE: ... it took 5 minutes extra to kill the women because they had to have their hair cut off as it was to be used for making mattresses. Was nothing ever told you about this accretion to German material, which came from the effects of these people who were murdered?
GOERING: No, and how can you imagine this? I was laying down the broad outlines for the German economy, and that certainly did not include the manufacture of mattresses from women's hair or the utilization of old shoes and clothes.- IMT March 21, 1946. Blue Series V.9 p.612
Auschwitz survivor Bernhard Lauber testified at the 4th Nuremberg Military Tribunal April 11, 1947:All the clothing was assembled in the so-called material camp and from there it was sorted out and loaded on trains, and called "presents for Pohl."- NMT Green Series Vol. 5, p.650
"There should be a charge of RM —.50 for each kg of hair."- Maurer to main camps, 4.1.1943, PS-3680
And what were the "Hair cutting machines" the Germans stole from the Jews?- Maurer to Himmler, 13.5.1943, NO-2003
"... the hairdresser, who cuts off their hair in one or two strokes, after which it vanished into huge potato bags 'to be used for special submarine equipment, door mats, etc.', as the SS Unterscharfuehrer on duty told me."- Kurt Gerstein
"Note should be made of Glücks’ August 6, 1942 directive to several concentration camps ordering the hair of concentration camp prisoners was to be put to use if it met a specified length requirement. The hair was to be made into industrial felt, or spun into yarn. Gluck specified the use of the hair as follows: “Out of combed and cut hair of women, hair-yarn socks for U-boat crews are to be made, as well as hair-felt stockings for employees of the Reich railways.” USSR-511; IMT Vol. XX, p.353." (p.314)
What a coincidence it is, that "socks for U-boat crews" also featured in an unquestionably genuine German document regarding the use of hair, captured by the Allies at Himmler's Alpine villa during the winter of 1944-5
"We also find it unlikely for the breakdown to have occurred, as it was emphatically denied by Pfannenstiel, who clearly stated to have seen the engine." (p.324)
HC mention (p.331) that Gerstein had a tendency to exaggerate in his accounts, but here they are accusing him of completely fabricating an entire event, one which he detailed in minutiae:After two hours and 49 minutes - the stop watch has registered everything well - the diesel starts.Unfortunately HC don't share their opinion on why they believe Gerstein lied, his reason for doing so and the implications of this.
"Globocnik was also eager to destroy as many documents related to the camps as he could, writing to Himmler in January 1944 that "all vouchers should be destroyed as soon as possible, as has been done in the case of all other documents pertaining to this operation (Reinhard)."" (p.334)
"In the case of the Aktion Reinhard camps, the destruction of files is a documented fact, as we know from Odilo Globocnik's final report on Aktion Reinhard to Heinrich Himmler." (p.25)
Strange, ironic even, that Globocnik's letter to Himmler January 5, 1943, his "final report on Aktion Reinhard", which states all documents pertaining to Aktion Reinhard should be destroyed, wasn't itself destroyed. Has anyone (outside the 75% Jewish staff of the Nuremberg trials) ever seen the original letter known as 4024-PS?
"... reasons that precluded excavations in the mass grave areas at Belzec, i.e. concerns of religious Jews about what they considered a desecration of the dead." (p.338)
This excuse has been exposed as a lie. Jews regularly "desecrate" the graves of their dead:Achuzat Kever helps Jewish families, worldwide, bring their loved ones to their final resting place in Israel. We also arrange exhumations anywhere in the world for the purpose of transferring the mortal remains to Israel.And they'll "desecrate" graves for monetary gain:If it is believed that valuables have fallen into the earth that was used to fill in the grave.A plethora of examples of Jews "desecrating" Jewish graves and this being in full accord of Talmudic Law can easily be shown
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